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		<title>By: mani sheriar, rockstar designer &#171; all about the journey</title>
		<link>http://manisheriar.com/blog/becoming-a-tableless-guru/comment-page-1#comment-213198</link>
		<dc:creator>mani sheriar, rockstar designer &#171; all about the journey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2008 05:39:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] only did mani write back, she gave me a link to an article she wrote in 2006 called &#8220;becoming a tableless guru.&#8221; i read it tonight and loved it. mani addresses many of the questions i have, and many i [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] only did mani write back, she gave me a link to an article she wrote in 2006 called &#8220;becoming a tableless guru.&#8221; i read it tonight and loved it. mani addresses many of the questions i have, and many i [...]</p>
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		<title>By: sarah</title>
		<link>http://manisheriar.com/blog/becoming-a-tableless-guru/comment-page-1#comment-213186</link>
		<dc:creator>sarah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2008 04:57:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>mani, you are so generous and awesome to write this amazing article for us. it addresses most of the questions i&#039;ve been wondering about being a newcomer to the web design world. thank you so much! hope you don&#039;t mind that i&#039;ll probably be linking my blog to yours to share this article with others. as for me, i will read and re-read and take to heart all of your advice. thanks mani! you&#039;re the best!

ps - btw being a newbie, i&#039;m learning how to code forms in xhtml/css now. bit of a headache for me since i&#039;m more of a designer than a coder, but i do have so much fun learning! for sure, i&#039;ll be visiting your blog often. keep on writing, mani!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>mani, you are so generous and awesome to write this amazing article for us. it addresses most of the questions i&#8217;ve been wondering about being a newcomer to the web design world. thank you so much! hope you don&#8217;t mind that i&#8217;ll probably be linking my blog to yours to share this article with others. as for me, i will read and re-read and take to heart all of your advice. thanks mani! you&#8217;re the best!</p>
<p>ps &#8211; btw being a newbie, i&#8217;m learning how to code forms in xhtml/css now. bit of a headache for me since i&#8217;m more of a designer than a coder, but i do have so much fun learning! for sure, i&#8217;ll be visiting your blog often. keep on writing, mani!</p>
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		<title>By: Phillip Ballew</title>
		<link>http://manisheriar.com/blog/becoming-a-tableless-guru/comment-page-1#comment-112371</link>
		<dc:creator>Phillip Ballew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jan 2008 17:48:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you for posting the resources.  I&#039;m revisiting website design after getting stuck providing office solutions for 15 years.  I have felt like I&#039;ve missed some boat that came in and is pulling fast out of the harbor. but after spending some time on your blog I&#039;ve gained some hope that I&#039;ll catch up to CSS and tableless design quickly.

My approach to the CSS movement has been to forget I knew anything about web design practices of the past and start with a clean slate.  You will be on my list of sites to visit often.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for posting the resources.  I&#8217;m revisiting website design after getting stuck providing office solutions for 15 years.  I have felt like I&#8217;ve missed some boat that came in and is pulling fast out of the harbor. but after spending some time on your blog I&#8217;ve gained some hope that I&#8217;ll catch up to CSS and tableless design quickly.</p>
<p>My approach to the CSS movement has been to forget I knew anything about web design practices of the past and start with a clean slate.  You will be on my list of sites to visit often.</p>
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		<title>By: Ray</title>
		<link>http://manisheriar.com/blog/becoming-a-tableless-guru/comment-page-1#comment-52041</link>
		<dc:creator>Ray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jun 2007 05:30:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excellent.  Just starting out on the journey, have raided your site a couple of times for the wealth of information you provide, but must post now that I found this page.

I had visited several of the &#039;A-list&#039; sites and the link to Relatively Absolute on Autistic Cuckoo is pure gold... (borders are part of width?! doh!)...

BUT the main reason i wanted to post was the sense of hope your &#039;over the hill comment&#039; gave me... oh yes, the headbashing and perpetual forum trawling... I&#039;m so glad I can expect to one day be over that :)

Thanks for your sublime site, much love.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent.  Just starting out on the journey, have raided your site a couple of times for the wealth of information you provide, but must post now that I found this page.</p>
<p>I had visited several of the &#8216;A-list&#8217; sites and the link to Relatively Absolute on Autistic Cuckoo is pure gold&#8230; (borders are part of width?! doh!)&#8230;</p>
<p>BUT the main reason i wanted to post was the sense of hope your &#8216;over the hill comment&#8217; gave me&#8230; oh yes, the headbashing and perpetual forum trawling&#8230; I&#8217;m so glad I can expect to one day be over that :)</p>
<p>Thanks for your sublime site, much love.</p>
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		<title>By: Marj</title>
		<link>http://manisheriar.com/blog/becoming-a-tableless-guru/comment-page-1#comment-47529</link>
		<dc:creator>Marj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jun 2007 19:13:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This article/blog has helped me tremendously with getting started on my web design journey! I&#039;m currently a student about to graduate and I definantly want to be a software developer, but there&#039;s a creative juice inside of me that desperately wants to be noticed and released (must be the Pisces in me)! I fiddled around with frontpage, html, and some photoshop when I was younger and got away from it. Now I definantly want to get back into the web design game...especially now that someone has asked me to do a website for them! Mind you, I&#039;ve never done a website before so this will be a very interesting journey for me! At least now I have some knowledge and some places to go for help! Thanks a bunch! 1luv!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This article/blog has helped me tremendously with getting started on my web design journey! I&#8217;m currently a student about to graduate and I definantly want to be a software developer, but there&#8217;s a creative juice inside of me that desperately wants to be noticed and released (must be the Pisces in me)! I fiddled around with frontpage, html, and some photoshop when I was younger and got away from it. Now I definantly want to get back into the web design game&#8230;especially now that someone has asked me to do a website for them! Mind you, I&#8217;ve never done a website before so this will be a very interesting journey for me! At least now I have some knowledge and some places to go for help! Thanks a bunch! 1luv!</p>
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		<title>By: Nakushita</title>
		<link>http://manisheriar.com/blog/becoming-a-tableless-guru/comment-page-1#comment-40058</link>
		<dc:creator>Nakushita</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 May 2007 21:29:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I remember making the CSS leap from tables and while at first I found myself looking blankly at my screen more often than is healthy, it became strangely second-nature after a time.  However, I found that convincing everyone around me that CSS was the way to go a bit harder than learning it to be honest.  Tables are a comfort zone for some people and they can&#039;t see how it holds them back.   

My new hurdle now: Everyone who I convinced to come on over to the CSS side of the world thinks I am their encyclopedia of knowledge.  Oh how I wish I had that kind of know how.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I remember making the CSS leap from tables and while at first I found myself looking blankly at my screen more often than is healthy, it became strangely second-nature after a time.  However, I found that convincing everyone around me that CSS was the way to go a bit harder than learning it to be honest.  Tables are a comfort zone for some people and they can&#8217;t see how it holds them back.   </p>
<p>My new hurdle now: Everyone who I convinced to come on over to the CSS side of the world thinks I am their encyclopedia of knowledge.  Oh how I wish I had that kind of know how.</p>
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		<title>By: Kate</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Nov 2006 18:11:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This article is great! Really helpful. I discovered this site pretty recently through the CSS Zen Garden site. I think I will be visiting more often. Thank you for all the advice.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This article is great! Really helpful. I discovered this site pretty recently through the CSS Zen Garden site. I think I will be visiting more often. Thank you for all the advice.</p>
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		<title>By: suzan</title>
		<link>http://manisheriar.com/blog/becoming-a-tableless-guru/comment-page-1#comment-2211</link>
		<dc:creator>suzan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Aug 2006 00:57:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ha!  That is so true about the A-List bloggers!!  It IS so annoying!!!  They really do write about their pastrami sandwiches and they really do get 50 comments saying things like, &quot;Oh ... I just had a great pastrami sandwish too!&quot; 

My theory is that everyone knows how many hits these blogs get, and they just comment to comment ... in order to leave links to their own blogs at these high-profile sites.  It&#039;s just a big game.

Sigh.  

Keep up the great work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ha!  That is so true about the A-List bloggers!!  It IS so annoying!!!  They really do write about their pastrami sandwiches and they really do get 50 comments saying things like, &#8220;Oh &#8230; I just had a great pastrami sandwish too!&#8221; </p>
<p>My theory is that everyone knows how many hits these blogs get, and they just comment to comment &#8230; in order to leave links to their own blogs at these high-profile sites.  It&#8217;s just a big game.</p>
<p>Sigh.  </p>
<p>Keep up the great work.</p>
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		<title>By: Cindy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cindy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Aug 2006 20:58:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m another one that reads but never comments :) But yes, I love reading your articles (even if they cover something I already knew). I use the red border all the time in debugging, but I&#039;ll have to remember that sometimes a red background might be more useful.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m another one that reads but never comments :) But yes, I love reading your articles (even if they cover something I already knew). I use the red border all the time in debugging, but I&#8217;ll have to remember that sometimes a red background might be more useful.</p>
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		<title>By: Sheriar Designs</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sheriar Designs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Aug 2006 17:59:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Thanks so much for all the kind words!&lt;/strong&gt;

You guys probably don&#039;t realize how much these comments mean to me ... they really help keep me going.  

I&#039;m very appreciative of the support I get for my blogging efforts.

&lt;strong&gt;Rachel:&lt;/strong&gt; I found that the best way to get businesses to care about Standards is to help them understand how it affects their &lt;em&gt;bottom line&lt;/em&gt;.  This is the only thing they tend to care about anyway (many of them, at least).  There are a lot of ways to present them with this, and I smell another post on the horizon where I give you some of my favorite techniques ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Thanks so much for all the kind words!</strong></p>
<p>You guys probably don&#8217;t realize how much these comments mean to me &#8230; they really help keep me going.  </p>
<p>I&#8217;m very appreciative of the support I get for my blogging efforts.</p>
<p><strong>Rachel:</strong> I found that the best way to get businesses to care about Standards is to help them understand how it affects their <em>bottom line</em>.  This is the only thing they tend to care about anyway (many of them, at least).  There are a lot of ways to present them with this, and I smell another post on the horizon where I give you some of my favorite techniques &#8230;</p>
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